Polish Power

hahahaha. on a serious note, how ur mode-swings?

Polish Power

now how sooon do you feel the positives of roids? are steriods only INJECTABLE or are they pill forms? i dont think im comfortable about injecting myself lol

1quick1

It depends on the ester. Test E doesn't kick in for a couple weeks. There are pill forms but typically injectables are safer. That's why a lot of people take Dbol for the first 4-6 weeks to get strength gains going the first week. Dbol is in pill form. I've read of people doing Dbol (pills) only cycles and gaining mostly water weight and losing it after the cycle.

If you did a Test only cycle for your first one you could do 1 shot per week for 10 weeks.

Polish Power

man, i hate needles lol.....i dont need to build mass, i believe i have plenty of it..im at 230lbs. already, and i want to get well-defined. any kind of pill-form that just helps ya get SHURREDDED!?

1quick1

Yea I've never cycled so I'm just going off all the info I read. And for the record I also HATE needles. They don't hurt but something about them freaks me out. Oh well though I'd be able to get through that.

As for pill forms to help you get cut, well I have no clue. I know most pill forms of steroids are more dangerous because of the stress they put on the liver.

If you are looking to cut some BF% down do the E/C stack. Dirt cheap and extremely effective. Not for the weak of heart or those who start getting shakes on low doses of caffeine.

Polish Power

E/C stack? (n00b question)

1quick1

Ephedra/Ephedrine & caffeine. A typical cycle would go like

week 1: 12.5mg E/200mg caffeine - 1 time per day
week 2: 25mg E/200mg caffeine - 1 or 2 times daily
week 3 -5: 25mg E/200mg caffeine 2-3 times daily
week 6: start cycling down 25mg E/200mg caffeine 1-2 times a day
week 7: 25mg E/200mg - once daily then completely stop.

It's jsut recommened to taper out of it because a lot of people will get the withdrawals and get shakes/headaches (you know the same thing that would happen to a life-long coffee drinker if he quit coffee one day)

Ephedra is now banned as a fat burner but you can still pick it up from a couple different places, including bodybuilding.com. It's sold as a treatment to asthma.

It's important to research the stuff before you take it though because it's more powerful then any fat burner on the market. It's banned now because it's been linked to tons of deaths but it is proven to be healthy if taken correctly at the right doses and cycled properly. This isn't something you would want to take if you are extremely sensitive to stimulants or have any heart conditions, high blood pressure, etc.

However though, this stuff will curb your appetite and give you crazy energy.

Polish Power

that's what i thought it was i have taken Ephedra before. didnt feel a bad thing frmo it. i was taking STAKER-2, when it was available here in california.

i was thinking of taking BURN-Xtreme from American Cellular Labs (i take 2 of their products already, and LOVE em...getting on their new stuff too.)


BURN-Xtreme contains 10mg ephedrine and 100mg caffeine per capsule
American Cellular Labs

now is this something i would take on my OFF-CYCLE? im about to get on my off-cycle in 2 days

Polish Power

nevermind, just noticed the "THIS PRODUCT HAS BEEN DISCONTINUED" ontop of the page

1quick1

Yea that's the stuff. The thing is they still make most these products but they don't have ephedra in it so they pretty much are just caffeine and whatever else.

The E/C stack it pretty much just putting together the old Stacker-2's, Hydroxycut, Yellow Jackets, etc.

E/C stack is something you definitely want to take on a cutting cycle as (I don't bother with all the science) it helps speed up your metabolism.

Polish Power

ok...do u have a link to where i can get something good then?

so i SHOULDNT take it on my On-cycle or my Post-cycle....but after my post-cycle start a cutting-cycle?....these f'n cycles!!! lol

1quick1

When you say ON cycle do you mean trying to gain muscle? If so then no you will want to do it when you're trying to cut down on fat and get them abs showing

Here's a great thread by a good member over at bb.com. Actually he posts here too but not too often.

The Basics Of The ECY Stack... - Bodybuilding.com Forums

1quick1

good thread

Polish Power

by ON-cycle i mean, but taking my muscle building supplements (test boosters) 6-8wks worth. off-cycle is when im getting all my test levels to normal condition, then starting again after 4 wks of that.